EAST CAROLINA (9-10, 2-4) at WICHITA STATE (8-10, 0-5) Game Thread

[Wichita Willy]

If I were a high school senior committed to the Shockers next year, I would seriously reconsider because it's obvious that HCPM doesn't play freshmen.

[forevershockerfan]

A bright spot tonight? Ballard with 7 blocks.

[Stickboy46]

A bright spot tonight? Ballard with 7 blocks.

He's the only reason we didn't give up our normal 8-10 points right after half.

[Wichita Willy]

I'm not blaming this on Cortes and DeGray, but we were 8-3 before they became eligible and we are 0-8 since. I'm not sure HCPM knows how to handle having choices.

[Stickboy46]

I'm not blaming this on Cortes and DeGray, but we were 8-3 before they became eligible and we are 0-8 since. I'm not sure HCPM knows how to handle having choices.

Also a difference in competition... Mills 6 year history is built on mainly beating up on 200+ teams, losing to most Top 150 teams, and occasionally losing to a 200-300 team.

[RoyalShock]

I'm not blaming this on Cortes and DeGray, but we were 8-3 before they became eligible and we are 0-8 since. I'm not sure HCPM knows how to handle having choices.

I have had that thought too. But the first sign was the Liberty game. Then the Shocker performance against SDSU at Intrust looked a lot like the performances we are seeing now.

[WuShock16]

Folks, I am going to highly recommend heading over to the Baseball former players thread to get some much-needed life perspective.

I'm gonna call it a night, but not before making a quick stop in a couple bedrooms down in my basement.

[Singeril]

Hmmmm….if we finish last, do we get first pick in the draft?

[asiseeit]

I'm not blaming this on Cortes and DeGray, but we were 8-3 before they became eligible and we are 0-8 since. I'm not sure HCPM knows how to handle having choices.

Right after their first game I suggested that a nine man rotation could very well mess up what chemistry we had playing seven

[asiseeit]

Could be the Eagle Rare talking....but I am more relaxed this half....lol

Eagle Rare is an excellent choice - one of my favorites

[ShockTalk]

Everyone talking about a "hard reset" may need modify your expectations.

1. We must be able to hold on to Williams and Pipkin after this debacle of a season.

2. To this point in Mills' career as a head coach, he is a "one hit" wonder with Abmas.

Edit:

3. NIL

[WuDrWu]

Less than 4400 through the gates tonight.

Sunday will be less than that. Quite possibly a lot less.

[Stickboy46]

Less than 4400 through the gates tonight.

Sunday will be less than that. Quite possibly a lot less.

Chiefs game at the same time .... definitely a lot less

[asiseeit]

It was about eight games ago that I commented something to the effect - " I'll be the first to say it........Mills' is not the answer" Even I didn't know how right I was back then. Now, in defense of KP again. He played only 12 minutes tonight and was 2-3 from the field yet everyone is still all over him. QB was great but you can't pin the loss on KP. I keep telling all of you that together they are the strength of the team. Keep them both and recruit over the rest. Wish Acy could take over for Mills'.

[Husker4Shockers]

Isaac Brown was a much better coach than Paul Mills. There, I said it.